| MORGAN STANLEY & CO; GOLDMAN, SACHS & CO. July 19, 2004 Mr. Jonathan G. KatzSecretary
 U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission
 450 Fifth Street, N.W.
 Washington, D.C. 20549-0609
 File Number S7-22-04  Dear Mr. Katz: Morgan Stanley & Co. Incorporated and Goldman, Sachs & Co. are 
        pleased to submit comments to the Securities and Exchange Commission 
        (the "Commission") on the proposed policy statement on sound practices 
        concerning complex structured finance activities (the "Policy 
        Statement") proposed on May 14, 2004 by the Board of Governors of the 
        Federal Reserve System, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the 
        Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, the Office of Thrift 
        Supervision and the Commission (the "Agencies").  We fully support the view that issuers of securities in the public 
        markets must provide full and accurate public disclosure of transactions 
        affecting their financial condition and results of operations, including 
        appropriate disclosure of complex structured finance transactions. As a 
        result of abuses that have come to light in recent years, we agree that 
        complex structured finance transactions deserve special attention from 
        regulators.  We also believe that financial institutions must have proper risk 
        management controls in place that are tailored to their business lines, 
        and we further recognize that the effectiveness of such controls depends 
        on having a board of directors and senior management that set the proper 
        tone for compliance by the entire organization.  The Policy Statement highlights the unfortunate fact that certain 
        issuers of securities may have used complex structured finance 
        transactions to circumvent regulatory or financial reporting 
        requirements, engage in improper tax reporting or mask questionable if 
        not illegal behavior. We fully recognize that financial institutions may 
        expose themselves to substantial reputational and legal risk if they 
        knowingly participate in structuring and executing transactions that are 
        illegal or that mislead investors.  While we support the purposes and objectives of the Agencies in 
        drafting the Policy Statement, we are concerned that the Policy 
        Statement will have unintended negative consequences for entirely proper 
        transactions. The overwhelming majority of structured finance 
        transactions are productive, legitimate activities constituting a very 
        significant means of capital formation for the business community. 
        Securitization transactions involving approximately $1.1 trillion of 
        securities were executed in 1993 and the notional amount of outstanding 
        interest rate/currency swaps in that year was approximately $8.5 
        trillion. By 2003, the face amount of securitization transactions 
        totaled approximately $3.7 trillion and the notional amount of 
        outstanding swaps equaled approximately $145 trillion, including 
        transactions in entirely new asset categories, such as credit default 
        swaps and collateralized debt obligations.  Despite the vast size of these markets, only a small handful of 
        transactions were subsequently identified as fraudulent during the 
        investigations of the past few years. Yet, the Policy Statement subjects 
        all complex structured finance transactions, broadly defined, to 
        heightened scrutiny and record-keeping requirements that will 
        substantially and immediately impair bona fide financing techniques by 
        companies and their financial intermediaries. As one example, the Policy 
        Statement's requirement to create and maintain "minutes of critical 
        meetings" is highly cumbersome and virtually impossible to implement. 
        Rather than promoting a regulatory benefit, this requirement will most 
        likely undercut the free flow of ideas that is essential for the 
        implementation of existing techniques and the creation of new financial 
        products. U.S. leadership and competitiveness in developing and 
        implementing these intellectually intensive products will suffer. We 
        welcome the opportunity to address our concerns in the comments set 
        forth below.  We note that, although our concerns may overlap with concerns of 
        other types of financial institutions, our comments are intended to 
        reflect the scope of our respective firm's business lines and 
        activities.  We comment on the following seven subjects:  
• Issuers of securities in the public markets should continue to 
          bear the burden of public disclosure of material matters regarding 
          their financial statements and results of operations. The Policy 
          Statement should not result in a sharing of that burden by financial 
          institutions engaging in complex structured finance transactions with 
          such issuers. Financial institutions do not and should not have the 
          enforcement capability to require confirmation of involvement by an 
          issuer/customer's senior management, to compel a customer to disclose 
          its business objectives or to mandate a dialogue with a customer's 
          outside advisors, including auditors. The focus on evaluating proposed 
          customer disclosure and accounting treatment places an improper burden 
          on financial institutions.  • The Policy Statement should oblige each financial institution to 
          maintain a robust risk management program that is suitable to its own 
          business. The Agencies should not, however, attempt to define elements 
          of transactions that should always require special scrutiny; decisions 
          on risk management should be left to the judgment of the individual 
          institutions.  • Certain of the suggestions in the Policy Statement regarding 
          minutes of customer meetings and retention of documents regarding 
          rejected transactions are inconsistent with normal business practices 
          and are impractical.  • The role of the Board of Directors in this area should be 
          consistent with the general duties of directors in the oversight of 
          internal controls. The Policy Statement should not expand the role of 
          the Board beyond these well-established corporate governance 
          principles.  • The Policy Statement should cover transactions involving U.S. 
          reporting companies. Extending the scope of the Policy Statement to 
          foreign companies that are not reporting companies under the U.S. 
          Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act") will unfairly 
          disadvantage U.S. financial institutions by driving such foreign 
          companies to engage in transactions with unregulated or offshore 
          financial intermediaries.  • The Policy Statement should not become a source of private 
        rights of action against financial institutions.  • The Agencies' interpretations of the Policy Statement should be 
        made on a consistent and coordinated basis and publicly available.
 1. Relationship with the Customer   
(A) Responsibility of the Customer   While we agree with the spirit of the Policy Statement and welcome 
        the expression of concern on the part of the Agencies that financial 
        institutions may assume reputational or legal risk if their customers 
        act in improper or illegal ways, we believe that public company 
        customers that enter into complex structured finance transactions, and 
        not the financial institutions that assist in structuring or executing 
        them, are in the best position to ensure their compliance with 
        applicable laws and regulations.  Several recent initiatives have greatly enhanced both the quality of 
        public company disclosure and the likelihood that disclosure of 
        structured finance transactions entered into by public companies will be 
        accurate and complete. These include (i) the Commission's recent 
        modifications of the events that trigger the filing of current reports 
        on Form 8-K, (ii) the new disclosure requirements concerning off-balance 
        sheet arrangements, (iii) new accounting rules on consolidation of 
        variable interest entities, (iv) the renewed focus generally on the 
        adequacy of disclosure in the Management's Discussion and Analysis of 
        Financial Condition and Results of Operations section of periodic 
        reports and registration statements, (v) the requirements concerning 
        disclosure controls and procedures, and (vi) the certification 
        requirements applicable to principal executive and principal financial 
        officers regarding periodic reports. The enhanced quality of reporting 
        company disclosure resulting from these initiatives, we believe, will go 
        a long way toward addressing several of the concerns that underlie the 
        Policy Statement. We believe the Commission should give these various 
        initiatives a chance to work.  We are not suggesting that financial institutions be permitted to 
        turn a blind eye to wrongdoing. Quite to the contrary. We agree with the 
        Agencies' observations that there will be circumstances in which a 
        financial institution should step away from a transaction or ensure that 
        any transaction executed by it is modified to comply with applicable 
        laws and regulations. But we do not believe a financial institution 
        should be required to substitute its judgment for that of its customer 
        when it does not know, or does not recklessly disregard information, 
        that the proposed transaction is unlawful and where the customer has a 
        good faith basis to assert that the transaction complies with applicable 
        laws and regulations. Moreover, financial institutions should be 
        entitled to rely fully on experts in the absence of knowledge that the 
        customer has misled the experts.  
(B) Knowledge of the Customer   The Policy Statement calls for policies and procedures designed to 
        ensure that the customer understands the risks of each complex 
        structured finance transaction. The suggestions include, among other 
        things, confirmation that a customer's senior management has reviewed 
        and approved a transaction. The Policy Statement also suggests that 
        financial institutions understand the customer's business objectives for 
        entering into a transaction.
 Financial institutions do not and should not have the enforcement 
        capability to require confirmation of involvement by the customer's 
        senior management or, in many cases, the ability to compel a customer to 
        fully disclose its business objectives. Effective implementation of 
        these concepts presumes a high level of cooperation from the customer, 
        which, as a practical matter, may not always be present. We note that 
        some of our customers are also our competitors, and they may wish to 
        withhold from us proprietary information relating to the transactions 
        that we execute for them for perfectly legitimate reasons. This lack of 
        transparency should not act as a bar to executing a transaction, but 
        often is an element in the financial institution's analysis of its legal 
        and reputational risks.  We believe that it is reasonable for financial institutions to make 
        sure that the individuals with whom they deal understand the nature and 
        consequences of complex structured finance transactions prior to their 
        completion, but it is incumbent upon the customer to know and understand 
        its own objectives and to ensure that such objectives are appropriate. 
        Each institution needs to "know its customer" in keeping with current 
        requirements, but we do not believe that new rules in this area are 
        necessary, appropriate or effective in preventing wrongdoing. 
        Accordingly, the Policy Statement should delete the language under the 
        section entitled "Reputational and Legal Risk" that states "Policies 
        should also articulate when a proposed transaction requires 
        acknowledgment by the customer that the transaction has been reviewed 
        and approved by higher levels of the customer's management". The same 
        concept should also be deleted where it appears under the last bullet 
        point under "Reputational and Legal Risk" and in "Documentation 
        Standards".  It is critical in our view that the roles and responsibilities of the 
        participants in complex structured finance transactions remain 
        arm's-length. Financial institutions should not be considered investment 
        advisors with respect to these transactions and should not be deemed to 
        have a fiduciary-type relationship with their customers. We believe that 
        the Policy Statement should be clear not to impose these types of duties 
        on financial institutions in these circumstances.  
(C) Accounting and Disclosure   The Policy Statement would require financial institutions to obtain 
        (and document) complete and accurate information about their customer's 
        proposed accounting treatment and financial disclosures relating to 
        proposed transactions. This information would be assessed in the 
        approval process and considered in light of the financial, accounting 
        and rating agency disclosure. The Policy Statement envisions 
        circumstances in which the financial institution or third-party 
        professionals communicate with the customer's independent auditors or 
        advisors. We believe these requirements are overly broad and exceed what 
        a financial institution should properly be required to do and what it 
        can reasonably accomplish.  As suggested above, the Policy Statement does not adequately take 
        account of the fact that the customer is primarily responsible for its 
        own disclosure, as the party with unlimited access to its own 
        information. Furthermore, it will often be the case that financial 
        statement and MD&A disclosure will take place after, and sometimes long after, 
        a complex structured finance transaction is executed. Hence, there will 
        be a meaningful gap in time between a financial institution's 
        consummation of an individual transaction and the customer's preparation 
        of its public disclosure documents under the Exchange Act (other than 
        any required Form 8-K disclosure). Additionally, customers may properly 
        aggregate the financial impact of various transactions in their public 
        disclosure documents, and a financial institution may not have knowledge 
        of all or even most of the transactions that a customer executes with 
        other financial institutions in a given reporting period. As a result, 
        information available to a financial institution will not be sufficient 
        for the financial institution to make appropriate judgments about proper 
        and complete disclosure. In addition, even if a financial institution 
        were in possession of all relevant information, a financial institution 
        and a customer could reasonably differ as to what information is 
        material.
         We believe that there should be no follow-on obligation of a 
        financial institution after a transaction is executed to make sure that 
        the customer properly discloses it. To impose obligations on a financial 
        institution in this respect would convert the financial institution into 
        a compliance authority, a role it would not have the legal basis or 
        capability to perform. The markets and regulators should rely on the 
        enhanced rules and regulations applicable to issuers to ensure that 
        material matters are disclosed properly.  Finally, financial institutions cannot force a dialogue with a 
        customer's outside advisors, including its independent auditors, or 
        require information from them. Some customers may not permit a financial 
        institution to be in contact with its independent auditor or other 
        outside advisors for any number of reasons, including confidentiality. 
        Additionally, some auditing and advisory firms will not enter into 
        conversations with financial institutions at all or without insisting on 
        indemnification and imposing other requirements as a precondition to 
        discussion. A financial institution is not in a position to dictate a 
        change in these practices.  In light of the foregoing, we believe that the section on "Accounting 
        and Disclosure by Customers" should be recast in its entirety. In 
        particular, we believe that a customer's proposed accounting treatment 
        and public disclosure of a complex structured finance transaction, to 
        the extent either or both are in fact communicated by the customer to 
        the financial institution, should be included among other factors in a 
        financial institution's determination of appropriate legal or 
        reputational risk to it. We suggest that the Policy Statement be revised 
        to eliminate references based on a determination "that a proposed 
        transaction may result in the customer filing materially misleading 
        financial statements", which we believe is too vague and inappropriately 
        shifts the burden of due diligence and liability exposure to the 
        financial institution. Instead, "appropriate action" should be triggered 
        by a determination "that a proposed transaction would raise 
        inappropriate legal or reputational risk to the financial institution, 
        based on all of the factors then known to such financial institution, 
        including for example, the accounting treatment or public disclosure to 
        the extent communicated or proposed by the customer at the time."
 2. Definition of Complex Structured Finance Transactions Subject to 
        Scrutiny   We subscribe to the notion that each financial institution must have 
        a robust risk control function. We agree with the Policy Statement that 
        each financial institution should have the responsibility and the 
        discretion to determine which complex structured finance transactions 
        should be subject to heightened risk control procedures.  To be sure, there are common qualities of certain types of complex 
        structured finance transactions that may merit special scrutiny by the 
        risk control function. The Policy Statement should not, however, suggest 
        that any particular transactional element or group of elements should 
        require elevating a transaction to the level of special scrutiny. For 
        example, most swap and securitization transactions possess some of the 
        elements cited by the Policy Statement as necessitating heightened 
        scrutiny. Yet, these transactions generally pose little or no inherent 
        legal or reputational risk. Each financial institution must be permitted 
        to make its own determination as to which transactions raise meaningful 
        legal, regulatory or reputational risks and should be subjected to 
        heightened scrutiny.  Moreover, we believe that the Policy Statement would impose 
        unnecessary requirements relating to tax matters. The Department of the 
        Treasury and the Internal Revenue Service (the "IRS") recently updated 
        their rules requiring taxpayers to disclose transactions with "tax 
        shelter" indicia to the IRS, and requiring material advisors to maintain 
        information about such transactions. Under the IRS rules, advisors are 
        required to provide that information to the IRS upon request. These new 
        rules reflect a major effort by the IRS over the last several years to 
        develop rules that identify all types of transactions that are of 
        interest to them, in a manner that is not unduly burdensome to 
        taxpayers. We (and other financial institutions) have made substantial 
        investments to develop procedures and train personnel in order to comply 
        with these rules. We are not aware of any need for the adoption by the 
        Agencies of additional oversight requirements in this area.  3. Documentation   The Policy Statement sets standards for documenting the approval 
        process for complex structured finance transactions. While we recognize 
        the benefits of good documentation, certain aspects of the proposal 
        raise concerns.  We believe it is impractical to create and maintain "minutes of 
        critical meetings" with customers. It is not normal or customary in any 
        industry or business to take minutes at meetings among business 
        transaction participants. Generally, conversations may not have any 
        predetermined outcome or may be premised on confidentiality among the 
        parties. This is in contrast to government agency proceedings or 
        corporate governance bodies or committees where all parties have an 
        expectation that minutes are necessary to create a record of the 
        proceedings for record keeping and historical purposes. Secondly, the 
        requirement that a financial institution minute a meeting with a 
        customer will chill the free flow of ideas that has proven to be 
        essential for the creation of new financial products. As discussed 
        above, the immense creativity of the structured finance business has resulted in 
        an array of new and valuable capital raising techniques in the last ten 
        years. Finally, minuting meetings may not be particularly valuable 
        because many meetings may not have any tangible impact on whether a 
        transaction occurs or is terminated. Leaving aside the practicalities of 
        minuting every "critical" meeting, there typically is no opportunity to 
        determine, other than through studied hindsight, whether a meeting is 
        "critical" or not. Accordingly, the section on "Documentation Standards" 
        should delete references to the bullet point relating to minutes of 
        critical meetings with the client.
         The Policy Statement suggests retention of documents relating to 
        "disapproved transactions with controversial elements (e.g., denied in 
        the final stages of approval or due to customer requests for particular 
        terms requiring additional scrutiny)." Transactions may be disapproved 
        or terminated for a variety of reasons – commercial issues, timing 
        issues and pricing issues, among others, even in the final stages. 
        Transactions may be rejected at early stages before they are brought to 
        the attention of a governance or policy oversight committee, which in 
        hindsight might be deemed to have involved terms requiring additional 
        scrutiny. Records should not have to be maintained for all transactions 
        that are rejected (because the burdens of doing so would be 
        unmanageable), and it will frequently be difficult to pinpoint what 
        circumstances led to the rejection of a particular transaction of the 
        type identified above. Frequently, transactions are rejected or 
        terminated for more than one reason. The retention of disapproved 
        transaction records should not become a significant administrative 
        burden in its own right, entailing meetings and additional paperwork 
        just to document the rejected transaction documentation. We believe that 
        an appropriate balance between meeting the goals of the Policy Statement 
        and not imposing excessive record-keeping or otherwise impractical 
        requirements can be best achieved through an expectation that financial 
        institutions would retain records of decisions by any governance or 
        policy oversight committee disapproving a transaction because it 
        presented the financial institution with an unacceptable level of legal 
        or reputational risk.  4. The Role of the Board and Management   We agree with the Policy Statement that the proper role of the Board 
        of Directors of financial institutions in this area is to (i) establish 
        and maintain a proper ethical and risk management tone, and (ii) engage 
        in oversight of activities regarding the adoption, maintenance and use 
        of risk management policies and procedures. Additionally, we believe 
        that management has principal responsibility for devising and 
        implementing risk control procedures relating to complex structured 
        finance transactions. Management is obligated to review individual 
        transactions, where appropriate, monitor trends in this area to the 
        extent possible and report to the Board as a matter of normal corporate 
        governance. We further believe, however, that the Policy Statement 
        should not be a vehicle for expanding or changing customary principles 
        regarding corporate governance.
 5. Scope of Coverage The Policy Statement provides that financial institutions executing 
        complex structured finance transactions should maintain a comprehensive 
        set of formal, firm-wide policies and procedures for managing and 
        regulating complex structured finance activities with all customers and 
        in all jurisdictions around the world where the institution operates.
         We believe that extending the obligations of financial institutions 
        to encompass customer compliance on a global basis (and not just to 
        companies having a reporting obligation with the Commission under the 
        Exchange Act), would require financial institutions to address a myriad 
        of potentially conflicting legal and regulatory regimes, different 
        disclosure standards (not just the Commission's) and accounting 
        treatment under other accounting principles (not just U.S. generally 
        accepted accounting principles).  Extending the reach of the Policy Statement to non-reporting foreign 
        companies could place our respective firms and other U.S. financial 
        institutions at a competitive disadvantage with other market 
        participants outside the United States. To the extent that customers 
        find the level of risk control dictated by U.S. procedures too 
        intrusive, they are likely to move offshore to institutions that are not 
        subject to oversight by any of the Agencies. The net effect will be 
        negative for U.S. financial institutions and global markets.  We believe that it would be sound policy and would maintain U.S. 
        competitiveness to limit the reach of the Policy Statement to complex 
        structured finance transactions executed by companies that are required 
        to file reports with the Commission under the Exchange Act, including 
        transactions in which the financial institution counterparty is a non-U.S. 
        or unregulated entity. If the scope of the Policy Statement were defined 
        differently, customers would be driven to engage in business with 
        unregulated entities or offshore institutions.  6. No Private Right of Action   We believe the Policy Statement should not establish standards that 
        could become the basis for legal action by private third parties, 
        including shareholders of customers. We believe that it does not and we 
        respectfully suggest that the Policy Statement expressly confirm that it 
        is not intended to create a private right of action. 7. Interpretation of Policy Statement   We would respectfully request that the Agencies make an effort to 
        provide consistent and coordinated responses and interpretations to 
        comments on or issues raised by the Policy Statement. We would 
        appreciate that all requests for interpretive guidance of the Policy 
        Statement to each of the Agencies as well as each Agency's response be 
        made public.  8. Conclusion   We welcome the spirit of the Policy Statement. We believe, however, 
        that the Policy Statement is unduly burdensome in certain key respects 
        and potentially creates unwanted legal exposure for financial 
        institutions engaging in appropriate and good faith commercial activity.
         We appreciate the opportunity to raise these comments with the 
        Commission and we would be pleased to discuss the matters addressed in 
        this letter with the Staff if you would find that to be helpful. Very truly yours,  Goldman, Sachs & Co. By:
        David J. Greenwald
 Managing Director and Deputy General Counsel
 Morgan Stanley & Co. Incorporated
 
 By: Robin RogerManaging Director and General Counsel, Securities
 cc: Office of the Comptroller of the Currency
 Chief Counsel's Office, Office of Thrift Supervision
 Jennifer J. Johnson, Secretary, Board of Governors of the Federal 
        Reserve System
 Robert E. Feldman, Executive Secretary,
 Attention: Comments/0ES, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
 
 
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