August 29, 2003
Robert E. Feldman, Executive Secretary
Attention: Comments/Legal ESS
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
550 17th Street, NW
Washington, DC 20429
Re: FDIC Deposit Insurance Regulations; Living Trust Accounts
Notice of Proposed Rulemaking; RIN 3064-AC54
Ladies and Gentlemen:
LaSalle Bank Corporation (“LBC”) appreciates the opportunity to
comment on the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (“Proposal”) issued by the
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (“FDIC”) addressing the revocable
trust account section of the FDIC deposit insurance regulation
(“Regulation”).
LBC is an indirect subsidiary of ABN AMRO Bank N.V. (“Bank”), which
is headquartered in Amsterdam, the Netherlands. The Bank has over $519
billion in assets, approximately 111,000 employees and a network of
approximately 3,400 offices in over 60 countries. The Bank maintains
several branches, agencies, and offices in the United States.
LBC is a financial holding company headquartered in Chicago,
Illinois. LBC owns LaSalle Bank National Association, located in
Chicago, Illinois, and Standard Federal Bank National Association,
located in Troy, Michigan. These banks maintain over 400 offices in
Illinois, Michigan, and Indiana, with total deposits of approximately
$55 billion.
LBC welcomes the opportunity to comment on the Proposal. LBC agrees
with the FDIC that the existing revocable trust section of the
Regulation is confusing for bankers and depositors. As noted by the FDIC
in the Background to the Proposal, the Regulation was written to apply
to payable on death or totten trust accounts (“POD Accounts”), and it is
very difficult to extend its application to revocable trust accounts
that are opened pursuant to and owned by trustees in accordance with
separate trust agreements (“Living Trust Accounts”). We are writing to
inform the FDIC of the advantages and disadvantages, from LBC’s
perspective, to both alternatives suggested in the Proposal.
Alternative One
Alternative One proposes to eliminate the defeating contingency
provision of the revocable trust account section of the Regulation. LBC
does not believe that Alternative One will alleviate the existing
confusion and application difficulties with the Regulation and, instead
may add potentially more burdens. According Alternative One, to receive
per beneficiary coverage, the institution records must identify the
account as a trust account (using “in trust for,” “ITF” or any other
language establishing the trust relationship), and identify the
beneficiaries’ names, kinship relationships to the depositor, and
interests in the Trust. The requirements are carryovers from the
existing Regulation and, as recognized by the FDIC, were written to
apply to POD Accounts. The requirements that the institution records
identify the beneficiaries’ names, kinship relationships, and trust
interests should be eliminated for the following reasons:
1. From the deposit perspective, institutions do not need beneficiary
information. There is no reason to collect this information, except for
deposit insurance purposes.
2. Many institutions do not want to retain copies of depositor trust
agreements in their records –
• There is no reason other than deposit insurance to maintain the
trust agreement copies.
• Trust agreements are often amended several times, but depositors
usually do not update the institution records; Institutions and
potentially the FDIC in a failed institution scenario will be relying on
outdated trust agreements.
• Some state laws (particularly Illinois and Michigan) protect
institutions that rely on the actions of the trustee; Maintaining trust
agreements in institution records could interfere with that protection
and may place an institution at risk, for example, in the event that a
trustee does not act in accordance with the trust agreement and a
beneficiary victim attempts to assert that the depository institution
should be deemed to have known of the trustee’s misactions (since the
trust agreement is on file with the institution).
3. Requesting that the depositors provide beneficiary names and trust
interests for the institution records rather than providing copies of
the trust agreements to the institution also has many pitfalls for
depositors, institutions and the FDIC.
• In LNC’s experience, many depositors do not understand the
technical terms of their trust agreements and will not be able to
accurately summarize the interest of each beneficiary in the trust, and,
therefore, may provide the institution with incorrect information. If
the depositors provide incorrect information, are they then amending the
terms of their trust agreement? Is the trustee then at risk for paying
out to the wrong beneficiary?
• Bankers may try to assist the depositors in gleaning the necessary
information from the trust agreements; institutions do not want bankers
trying to interpret the terms of trust agreements.
• Depositors may still need to contact their attorneys for the
requisite information.
• Trust agreements for high net worth depositors are often too
complex to condense into a few words for inclusion in deposit records.
• If the information provided is incorrect or outdated, the FDIC will
be relying on incorrect information in the event of an institution
failure.
4. Particularly in light of the Bank Secrecy Act as amended by the
USA PATRIOT Act, institutions are grappling with record keeping
requirements that necessitate procedural and operational changes and
resulting significant expense to institutions. The potential additional
cost to ever-increasing record keeping expenses on institutions should
be weighed against the burden to the FDIC in dealing with the few
(relatively speaking) failed institution proceedings, in which the FDIC
would continue the apparently existing practice of reviewing the trust
agreements for Living Trust Account depositors. The FDIC would be
relying on current, accurate information. LBC believes that accurate
FDIC payouts and minimal institution record keeping expenses are more
significant benefits than decreasing the time that it takes to reimburse
the depositors, a benefit noted by the FDIC in the Proposal.
Alternative Two
Alternative Two provides separate insurance coverage for POD Accounts
and Living Trust Accounts, by leaving the Regulation section applicable
to POD Accounts as is and adding a Living Trust Account provision that
separately insures up to $100,000, accounts owned by a trust.
Alternative Two should be easily understood by bankers and depositors.
The record keeping requirements for the depository institutions will be
minimal. However, as the FDIC noted in the Proposal, potential insurance
per depositor decreases.
LNC seeks clarification regarding insurance coverage for signature
card trust accounts (“Signature Card Trust Accounts), which are
different from POD Accounts. A POD Account signature card simply lists
the depositor’s name “in trust for” or “ITF” or “payable on death to” a
named beneficiary or beneficiaries. For Signature Card Trust Accounts,
the account signature card contains an actual trust agreement, including
beneficiary and disbursement terms. The trust terms of the Signature
Card Trust Account are governed by the trust agreement on the signature
card, not by the state law POD/totten trust statute. Signature Card
Trust Accounts were primarily opened by savings banks and savings
associations and remain open, unless they were converted to another
account ownership or closed. Bankers and customers often treat Signature
Card Trust Accounts and POD Account ownerships as one and the same,
since many institution systems do not differentiate between the two
account types and for most banking purposes do not need to differentiate
between them. If the FDIC adopts Alternative Two in the revisions to the
Regulation, LNC seeks clarification as to whether Signature Card Trust
Accounts fall within the category of POD Accounts or Living Trust
Accounts for purposes of insurance coverage. If they fall under the
Living Trust Account category, will each account constitute a separate
trust or will all of a depositor’s Signature Card Trust Accounts be
aggregated as one trust? LNC recommends that Signature Card Trusts fall
under the POD accounts category for purposes of insurance coverage.
LBC also requests clarification as to whether accounts owned by two
or more different living trusts settled by the same grantor will receive
up to $100,000 in coverage per living trust or whether they will be
aggregated and receive $100,000 in total coverage.
Finally, we assume that the revised Regulation will not be
retroactive and will only apply to new accounts opened on or after the
effective date of the revision.
Conclusion
Again, LBC appreciates the opportunity to comment on the Proposal. We
hope that these comments will assist the FDIC in issuing a revision to
the Regulation that is beneficial to depositors, insured institutions,
and the FDIC.
Sincerely,
Willie J. Miller, Jr.
LaSalle Bank Corporation
Chicago, IL
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